Discussion:
use PDA as external touch screen monitor?
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m***@gmail.com
2007-10-11 16:44:25 UTC
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I've seen software
that turned the Palm into external LCD monitor, making it external
touch screen device that are slaved to a PC is possible.
This is pretty cool. I wonder if this also turned the touchscreen into
an input device for the PC?

Has anyone seen anything like this - software or hack or mod - that
lets you connect a Pocket PC or older Win CE device to a Windows
machine to use as a combo external monitor / touchscreen input
device? It would be pretty cool to be able to use your old PDA (or
touchscreen cell phone) as an touchscreen input device or game
controller like the Nintendo DS has...

I have some older PDAs (Cassiopeia E-100, iPAQ 3650) and handhelds
(NEC MobilePro 770) whose usefulness would be rejuvenated with this
type of application. Or even plugging in your Windows Mobile cell
phone to use as an input device for a desktop application such as a
game or drawing app.

I would think they'd have to connect to the PC via sync cable (serial
in the case of the Cassiopeia or MobilePro, USB in the case of the
iPAQ). Either the throughput would have to be fast enough to send
screen updates to the PDA (say 320x240 res, 65535 colors) and for the
PDA to send screen taps to the PC. Maybe after initializing the PDA's
display, the driver software would only send screen changes (like VNC
viewer) to save bandwidth.
For the non-USB devices, the only other ways to connect would have to
be through a NIC (the E-100 only has a CF slot, so you'd need to find
a CF NIC) or IR (sounds kludgy, probably slow. Also, in a gaming
situation, would you have to have 1 IR receiver per player on the
machine?)

Thoughts?
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
2007-10-11 19:30:54 UTC
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Sure there are such apps; for example, Innobec SideWindow -
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/html/display_product.jsp?id=prod5641205

See for example
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=346707 for more links
& discussion
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Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
Post by m***@gmail.com
I've seen software
that turned the Palm into external LCD monitor, making it external
touch screen device that are slaved to a PC is possible.
This is pretty cool. I wonder if this also turned the touchscreen into
an input device for the PC?
Has anyone seen anything like this - software or hack or mod - that
lets you connect a Pocket PC or older Win CE device to a Windows
machine to use as a combo external monitor / touchscreen input
device? It would be pretty cool to be able to use your old PDA (or
touchscreen cell phone) as an touchscreen input device or game
controller like the Nintendo DS has...
I have some older PDAs (Cassiopeia E-100, iPAQ 3650) and handhelds
(NEC MobilePro 770) whose usefulness would be rejuvenated with this
type of application. Or even plugging in your Windows Mobile cell
phone to use as an input device for a desktop application such as a
game or drawing app.
I would think they'd have to connect to the PC via sync cable (serial
in the case of the Cassiopeia or MobilePro, USB in the case of the
iPAQ). Either the throughput would have to be fast enough to send
screen updates to the PDA (say 320x240 res, 65535 colors) and for the
PDA to send screen taps to the PC. Maybe after initializing the PDA's
display, the driver software would only send screen changes (like VNC
viewer) to save bandwidth.
For the non-USB devices, the only other ways to connect would have to
be through a NIC (the E-100 only has a CF slot, so you'd need to find
a CF NIC) or IR (sounds kludgy, probably slow. Also, in a gaming
situation, would you have to have 1 IR receiver per player on the
machine?)
Thoughts?
John
2007-10-21 21:43:27 UTC
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Post by m***@gmail.com
I've seen software
that turned the Palm into external LCD monitor, making it external
touch screen device that are slaved to a PC is possible.
This is pretty cool. I wonder if this also turned the touchscreen into
an input device for the PC?
Has anyone seen anything like this - software or hack or mod - that
lets you connect a Pocket PC or older Win CE device to a Windows
machine to use as a combo external monitor / touchscreen input
device? It would be pretty cool to be able to use your old PDA (or
touchscreen cell phone) as an touchscreen input device or game
controller like the Nintendo DS has...
I have a package for the Palm (not PPC) that works with serial or
simple IR (SIR) (designed to re-use Palm IIIxe and V devices).
It was originally designed to make a Palm into an icon-based
"universal" wired control device for PC applications (handheld remote
for your media center PC or whatever), with definable buttons, etc.
The host (or another Palm) can generate an ad hoc screen display
(placement of buttons, text) and that display can be saved (on the
Palm) for later recall via a single command (define screen "Cable";
save screen "Cable"; define screen "OffAir"; save screen "OffAir";
recall screen "Cable", etc).
Button taps, screen tap locations, and Grafitti characters are sent to
the host device.

It should be feasible to create something similar for the PPC.

John
Jon Bendtsen
2007-10-22 14:55:41 UTC
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Post by m***@gmail.com
I've seen software
that turned the Palm into external LCD monitor, making it external
touch screen device that are slaved to a PC is possible.
This is pretty cool. I wonder if this also turned the touchscreen into
an input device for the PC?
Has anyone seen anything like this - software or hack or mod - that
lets you connect a Pocket PC or older Win CE device to a Windows
machine to use as a combo external monitor / touchscreen input
device? It would be pretty cool to be able to use your old PDA (or
touchscreen cell phone) as an touchscreen input device or game
controller like the Nintendo DS has...
Why not just run a VNC server on the computer and a VNC
client on your PDA? both are available as free software.




JonB
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
2007-10-22 16:05:22 UTC
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It's very slow and really incapable - see my related article. MyMobiler and,
of course, Pocket Controller are WAY bettter & faster
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Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
Post by Jon Bendtsen
Post by m***@gmail.com
I've seen software
that turned the Palm into external LCD monitor, making it external
touch screen device that are slaved to a PC is possible.
This is pretty cool. I wonder if this also turned the touchscreen into
an input device for the PC?
Has anyone seen anything like this - software or hack or mod - that
lets you connect a Pocket PC or older Win CE device to a Windows
machine to use as a combo external monitor / touchscreen input
device? It would be pretty cool to be able to use your old PDA (or
touchscreen cell phone) as an touchscreen input device or game
controller like the Nintendo DS has...
Why not just run a VNC server on the computer and a VNC
client on your PDA? both are available as free software.
JonB
Jon Bendtsen
2007-10-22 17:57:07 UTC
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Post by Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
It's very slow and really incapable - see my related article. MyMobiler and,
of course, Pocket Controller are WAY bettter & faster
Maybe, but at least with VNC you have the full source and
you can just code what you need.

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